Counting Cards in Live Dealer Online Blackjack
I'm new to the sub so please be gentle if this has already been discussed.
I enjoy the game of blackjack a lot - a little too much if you ask my wife.
I play recreationally and as a hobby.
I can count at home, but typically never try at a casino I'm usually with my friends, drinking beer, etc.
However, a few months ago, in my free time I wrote a program to simulate playing blackjack to basic strategy while keeping count varying your bets based on that count.
I was essentially trying to figure out what the best betting strategy would be based on the true count.
In the end, it was just a hobby that I got some good information on.
Recently, online blackjack with live dealers has gotten pretty popular.
I've been developing a desktop application that you would run live blackjack card counting software while playing blackjack online re-using a lot of the code I used months ago.
Counting was invented because we can't really keep track of card by card statistics at a live casino - the majority of us just aren't smart enough.
However, my application does do this.
It gives you real time stats on cards left in the deck, percentages of next card, blackjack percentage, etc.
I'm currently working on an algorithm that will make suggestions based on whats left in the deck.
I'm not deep enough to know how far it may or may not click to see more from basic strategy, but I think it will get interesting.
By this I mean really looking into how the game changes as cards come out.
I'm a smart guy, but when it comes to percentages such as "chance dealer has of busting when showing a 3", it can become a little bit difficult.
Even if you have that percentage, what do you compare it to?
The percentage of busting when showing a 3 with a fresh shoe?
Does basic strategy have these percentages, where do they come from?
Can you guys see where I could use some help?
How much would you pay?
Like I said, I do this as a hobby, and while I'm always looking to make extra money, I may end see more releasing it for free.
At the end of the day, even if that app can give you upwards of a 4% edge random numberyou have to play a lot of hands to make it worth while and I don't have the time or the money to do that - but someone else might.
Would love some feedback.
Professional player chiming in here, take it for whatever thats worth to you.
Now, onto the rest of your question.
Index charts and math can be generated very effectively off of monte carlo simulation and I highly suggest that is where you look if you are serious.
Hey man, I get 1.
I knew that was a problem heading into this thing, and like I said, this is a hobby and there's a good chance I continue to pursue it.
As for number 2, I'm not sure where you're getting your information?
I have an uncle that lives out of costa rica.
He is a software engineer like me and Is constantly working on online casino games live dealer or not.
I've asked him on more than one occasion "do you guys cheat?
His answer is always the same "The game is more info in our favor, we don't have to cheat.
I'm hoping I can just google that.
I'm not saying they all cheat, but how do you know if they are not without a large sample size?
Don't be so naive, a lot of these sites are non regulated, consumer beware.
This application sounds like it would make it easier for playing online.
Right now I just use a calculator to help me keep running count and then just play basic strategy and have a "card" for when to deviate from basic strategy.
I find that this works quite well and I can handle like two tables as the same time using this.
About the questions you had I guess I could help some with the collaborations but there is most likley better persons for that.
What I could do is test the application out on some live tables for you and give you input on that tho, since I normaly play like that when I play.
About the last question if it would be worth paying for I would say that it's just like said, it can be hard to get the money back from what it costs.
I would think that prehaps some kind of donation system could be better so you can give something when you have had a chance live blackjack card counting software test the application and seen if it's intelligible motor city casino video blackjack agree that would work for you and prehaps even made some money with the help from it.
No idea if this answers the questions you had or if I might have misunderstood something, then just let me know : This sounds really interesting.
The thing about playing online, can't say about all casinos, at least where I'm working at, the penetration is about 45-55%, which would make card counting and this kind of program harder to use comparing to preferable 60-80%pen.
Anyways looking forward to see how it actually works.
Great that someone has started to make such a program, hopefully it will succeed ; what you really want is a program that inputs every card and then runs real time calculations on what the optimal play is based on the exact deck composition, and does this within a couple of seconds since you only have about 15 seconds to make your decision.
I'm not convinced this is worth doing because of the extremely poor penetration in those online games.
They just cut the shoe right in half, so a very large bet spread would be required and the variance would be through the roof.
Also since they use a shoe and not 1 or 2 decks, the value of play variations calculated by knowing the exact deck composition loses value dramatically.
This is due simply to the effects of removal of https://chicago-lawyer.info/blackjack/blackjack-chart-table.html single card, which are much smaller for a shoe game than single deck.
That said, there might still be a market for this program given how many degens I see playing those online blackjack games.
Haha, yea, I've seen those guys playing too.
I definitely get that online casinos have really poor shoe penetration.
However, like I said before, this is a hobby and there's a good chance I pursue it.
Thanks for your input.
I wrote a very basic program in C++, but like Fabrication says deck penetration is really low.
Also the fact most casinos uses 4-6 deck setups which is still possible to count, but it kills most of the point.
I've gambled on BetWay and BetOnline; both of them are around 60% penetration.
In a casino, they go much further.
I'm not fluent enough in coding to know how to read the cards off of the screen although, not entirely impossible.
I have 135 WPM so I type fast, so I can input the cards as the dealer drops them to spit out an accurate count number.
I haven't really fooled much on besides this.
Interesting project though, I'd love to help out in whatever fashion I can.
A good idea for my program might be to take the current count number and divide by guesstimating how many decks remain, that would spit out a "true" count number.
What are you guesstimating?
The application I have, you literally click a number as the cards come out.
So as the cards come out of the shoe I display real time stats on whats left in the shoe.
There is no guesstimating.
If you want the count and the true count I display it.
I also display a next card is % as well as the chances of you busting if you hit vs the dealers chance of busting.
You are literally playing along with the dealer.
As the cards come out, you tell the application what card it was.
You don't really have a reliable way to tell exactly how many decks are left in the shoe.
It would work in practicality if you just wait for them to switch it I suppose.
I think doing something kind of like what you said is smarter.
For example if we know their is 6 decks in play, we also know there is 12 of every card.
It might be easier to just deduct the card from a static count.
Hopefully this makes some sort of remote sense.
I don't care about Kings?
And yes, this application would not work properly if you jumped in on the middle live blackjack card counting software a shoe.
Also, there's 13 of every card, but again, in blackjack I don't care about each card, only about the values a card represents.
There's no benefit in showing the player how many kings are left, I'd rather know how many 10's are left, which includes kings.
This is what I meant.
I meant all 10 cards could be represented as a static number, and simply deduct one upon the card dropping.
It might give a better representation of your odds compared to traditional card counting.
NET app, so it wouldn't work on Mac out of the box.
However, once I'm doing it wouldn't be hard to port it over to Mac and Linux.
It honestly depends on the feedback I get.
I may try to make some money off of it, but if it seems like no one is interested, I will probably just put it on git.
I didn't do a web app because it feels more like a desktop app.
Things needs to be calculated on the spot and sometimes AJAX can make things difficult.
Not to mention speed.
I honestly don't think it would work on the web.
Performance is key especially playing online you only get a few seconds to make your decision.
However, it's nice to have multiple people using it.
Finding bugs, giving feedback, etc.
Kind of got pulled into something else, but I live blackjack card counting software have the app and I have plans on continuing it, just pulled into something else.
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